1. There have been many news channels that are supporting the action of geoengineering. This tells me that this topic is more widespread than I thought and is definitely something that people do not want to talk about. 2. Aluminum is one of the most important elements in this film, because it is 4 times better than any other element to reflection solar radiation. There is also the threat of the soil being toxified around the earth because of how much aluminum is being put into the atmosphere. 3. The side effects of chemtrails are hard to manage and will most likely harm all forms of life. I believe that it is important to understand the concept of geoengineering because it all may be evidence to support the accusation towards the government. 4. Many government-employed people deny that the government is doing any sort of action like geoengineering. They seem to be very hesitant to talk about any of the factors and even throw laughter to the people who are asking the important questions. 5. One of the conferences with scientists that focus on geoengineering and its effects, showed that the scientists were not being entirely truthful. There are so many of these conferences in this film, which all show very similar answers to significant questions about the impacts of chemtrails in our air. 6. Contrails are different than chemtrails because contrails evaporate fast and chemtrails stay in the sky for a very long time. This is important evidence to create an argument for the impacts of geoengineering. 7. The man in California talked about how his skies around his 2000 acres of property are different from what they used to be a few years ago. They discussed how soil pH has risen (normal is up to 6.0, but it is now 6.8 in some areas) and chemical levels in the water have changed drastically because of the three poisonous chemicals supposedly being put into the atmosphere. Hikers are drinking this toxic water, which is an obvious red flag. 8. I believe that when there is extremely contaminated water and soil in very clean parts of the world, there needs to be more openness to different types of causes. I am not fully supporting the idea of geoengineering, but it is clearly an accurate accusation that needs to be researched on a more significant level of science to be even slightly accepted in the public.
Question: The fact that untouched water and soil (on top of a mountain far from industrialization) have been negatively affected so highly shows that there is in-fact some sort of activity happening to cause such levels, my question is how is this not evidence of geoengineering? Scientifically, where else do you think these high levels of three specific contaminants could come from?
1: It seemed that a lot of people in the video could not agree on exactly what was being dropped out of the plains. Sometimes reflective materials other time things like paper. 2: It would be very cheap to do making it harder to manage. 3: This video said the scientists have yet to look into the long term health effect of pouring aluminum into the atmosphere. 4: The spraying that people are reporting seems to primarily be nato countries 5: notes in a drop in clarity when the trails are seen 6: aluminum is a known carcinogen 7: In Hawaii they said that they never see the plains and said the reason for that is it is done offshore and blown in. I thought it was important to give at least one example of them saying something is happening without evidence. Question: How do we know how credible the people being interviewed are? Some of them it did not seem to make much sense as people who would know anything. Some were just people, some were in unrelated fields like dentists, others were just listed as scientist and no information on where they are from.
1) Based off of eye-witness accounts of grid-like/vertical clouds of particulates over parts of California, scientists tested the towns “pristine” water source for particulates connected to the trails observe. Levels of various trace elements were found to be present in the water source. 2) Plant life in the community was also tested. Dangerous amounts of aluminum and barium found in soil. Further, this is reason to believe soil levels will be affected from the atmospheric geoengineering that is occurring today. 3) Aluminum oxide forms placed within your arteries shutting down life. Aluminum is an example of a trace element that is currently being used in the ionization of the atmosphere. 4) A great analogy used for the importance and delicacy of the atmosphere is: image that the, “Atmosphere as thin as a layer of paint on a basketball”. If this was stressed more within the education system maybe people would slowly start to understand the complexity of this issue. 5) Geoengenering is not only currently happening, but it has been happening. These elements have been dissipating and falling on our communities, families, animals, and the environment around us. This is an issue because some elements such as aluminum bioaccumulate. 6) Arizona Senator says that, “the concern is off the charts”, and that the increase of diagnosed cases of, “alzheimer's has skyrocketed”, further a cause of alzheimer's is the accumulation of aluminum in the brain 7) Regular aluminum levels are measured naturally at 2ppm, currently atmospheric aluminum levels are at 39000 ppm. Belgium= first geoengineering conference
1. Aluminum oxide is the most harmful pollutant because it causes plaque in your arteries to build up. Aluminum accumulation overtime causes major neurological damage because it ends up as aluminum oxide and it sticks inside the organism. Every health condition can be traced back to exposure to a toxin.
2. This is an issue that affects all people because it is the air we breathe. It should matter to everyone to have clean air to breathe that does not have toxins.
3. “Governments do things because they can” They have major military organizations that are capable of testing on our atmosphere
4. There are many studies done that prove aluminums effects and toxicity
5. 39,000 parts per million of aluminum in the air when the normal amount should be 2
6. By testing for aluminum amounts it can inform how much unnatural exposure is happening. The proof is in the aluminum!
7. “Follow the dollar to get to the source of the problem”
Question: How is Geo engineering a profitable project? I am interested in learning more about the tax payers role and the funds they receive and distribute
7 Takeaway from the film 1. The contrails and chemtrails controversy has been in conversation for decades. Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering (SAG) is rarely in the media, but is an intense topic. 2. “Follow the money. You will come to the answer sooner or later” 3. They aren’t scientists; they are just skeptical about the answers. They need to answer the question of what the milky trails in the sky are. 4. Coverup operations are releasing aluminum and barium into the atmosphere at crazy high levels. People involved in the government deny this, but the data testing and sickness levels have shown otherwise. 5. Aluminum oxide causes major neurological damage as well as cancer. Aluminum is 39,000 ppm when it should be 2 ppm. 6. Heavy metal pollution is draining out the stars and affecting people’s health and wellbeing. Lives are in jeopardy. 7. Geoengineering is most definitely happening, but whether this practice is affecting and/or causing the climate change we are seeing globally is debatable. Some people consider this topic a ‘conspiracy fact’ rather than a ‘conspiracy theory.’
1. When aluminum gets to the oxide stage, it forms a plaque in arteries. These impacts are also a major negative burden on the environment. As it accumulates, it causes major neurological damage. 2. The overarching goal should be to remove toxins from the environment. Instead, they are being put in. There are metals in the environment with no other explaination except geoengineering. 3. This is a common ground for every person. Everyone wants clean air and water. If people stopped to consider how thin the atmosphere was, they would advocate for it to not be treated like a physics lab. 4. There is concern with the "why" of the situation. Why is this being allowed? Why is hardly anyone speaking out against this? Who is paying for it? 5. We should have 2ppm aluminum in the air, but the charts shown in the movie was 39,000. This is a major health hazard. As aluminium accumulates, it has very detrimental impacts, including changing the pH of soil. 6. There is a tremendously profitable industry behind geoengineering. Everything is in place for this operation to be happening. It is just a matter of motives and spreading information. 7. People need education on geoengineering. Without this, they cannot make educated decisions about geoengineering. The government needs a systems change focused on mandatory transparency.
Question: Were the people they interviewed reliable narrators? Is there a way to concretely test the chemicals coming out of planes?
1. New Zealand deemed the existence of chemtrails to be a conspiracy theory. Claiming that the trails that are being seen are just regular contrails, belittling people’s concerns.
2. Aluminum has a 4X volume metric rate of sulfur and 16X less coagulation rate. Making it the ideal option for reflecting sunlight away from earth.
3.Aluminum and barium deposits have been found in high levels in rain and snow all over the earth. Leading the public to believe that there is evidence of spraying on unknowing people.
4. Geoengineers propose spraying on a global level. In Phoenix there are far elevated levels of barium and aluminum in the atmosphere, 39,0000 ppm. These elevated levels are clearly not natural and are killing the natural plant life.
5. In Hawaii, they are seeing the effects of chemtrail spraying. The spraying is happening far enough away that the planes aren’t seen. Visibility of the stars and the horizon are deteriorating with the spraying.
6. There are many conferences and meetings covering the fears held by the public regarding the potential harm from geoengineering.
7. The fears for human and environmental health is a real concern. There are children standing up to these threats as well as adults and some political figures.
QUESTION: if so many people believe in the harms and corruption of chemtrails and geoengineering, why isn’t it a more accepted idea?
Chemtrails are trails of “chaf," which are chemical particles, injected into the atmosphere as an effort to cool it. Aluminum is the most common mineral used as chaf, because it is 4 times the volumetric rate, and 16 times less the coagulation rate compared to other metals such as barium and strontium.
Risk assessments have not been published to citizens. Researchers claim that human health impacts for aluminum chafs do not yet pose toxicological health risks to humans- yet continued to claim research (which is unpublished at this point) is in progress. Others say that atomospheric aluminum parts will lead to aluminum oxide forming in the body, forming a plaque within arteries.
Ecological risk assessments show that these chemicals will result in global atomospheric issues such as exacerbated ozone depletion, and Drought in africa and asia.
Many theorize the alterior motives in investing in these technologies, such as the power held over others by controlling resource quality, as well as the opportunity to weaponize this technology or modification of weather to benefit human activity (ie snow on the ski slopes, raining when in drought).
Those who study this theory, either supporting or opposed- are thoroughly mocked in the science and political realm, deemed as conspiracy theorists.
Normal levels of atmospheric aluminum content are 2 ppm, current levels are now 39,000 ppm.
1. The film towards the beginning of the film showed a parliament discussing the "chemtrails conspiracy" . They use the word in such a way to completely discredit devalue and mock the ideas of geoengineering. 2. Aluminum was the central idea of the movie we watched. They discussed how even though people are denying these SAGs but there is such a high concentration of aluminum in our way land, atmosphere and rain. This is so dangerous because it's a carcinogen. 3. There was a quote when someone asked if there was any fear of this being bad for human health and the man answering said no but only because they have done no testing to prove whether or not this will be bad for human health. This means that they are openly saying that they are testing without trying to see what the effects could be. 4. G Edward Griffin discussed the differences between contrail and chemtrails in order to identify which is which. He said that the biggest differences are that contrails dissipate and are 10 to 10 lengths of the airplane. Chemtrails are long, long lasting and tend to criss cross. 5. The movie showed how there are the two sides of geoengineering as I discussed in my presentation. In any decision they must determine a balance of their actions. How to benefit and help the most with limiting the potential harm as much as possible. 6. They also discussed how because this is a global conspiracy there must be international organizations and political powers that are in charge of all of this. They use the classic expression “follow the money”. 7. The important thing that I am learning about all of this is that geoengineering is a type of science that is conducting research and has potential experiments and ways in which they want to combat global warming. The big question is not really if this is going to happen or if its real its if it is already happening. Question: The part of the country that believes in climate change but does not want to make any action because they believe in a technofix. That being said geoengineering is a type of a technofix that the country is unaware of the existence of. Why would the country be completely unaware of a potential solution if it was the best potential option without anything bad going on with it?
1. Chemtrails block the sun by spraying something into the atmosphere. The video begins with the American Association for the Advancement of Science discussing this topic. 2. There is deliberate, large scale intervention in the system. Aluminum, Strontium, and Barium are being pumped into the atmosphere. 3. Experts were asked at a conference, if there are 10 megatons of aluminum dumped into the atmosphere, wouldn't that have serious health impacts? The expert replied, they don't know enough yet, but as of yet, there is no information to indicate negative impacts. 4. G. Griffin was interviewed and talked about the difference between contrails and chemtrails. He indicated that chemtrails are often in criss-cross pattern, look milky, and can cause trouble breathing. 5. The spraying is occurring mostly in NATO countries which indicates political motivation. There is also a profitable industry around it. 6. Deposits of aluminum, barium, and strontium are indicating that something is going on. They discuss deposits found in the soil pH in California as way above average. Additionally, high levels of these heavy metals are being found in forests and water bodies which is cause for concern. 7. Individuals interviewed said "The amount of metal falling on us cannot be disputed", "What is more important than the fear of sucking up heavy metals when you breathe?"
Question: How is something as controversial as a shift away from fossil fuels (which our entire economy and military is based on), discussed more than chemtrails if it has similar or more extreme implications according to the video?
1. There have been many news channels that are supporting the action of geoengineering. This tells me that this topic is more widespread than I thought and is definitely something that people do not want to talk about.
ReplyDelete2. Aluminum is one of the most important elements in this film, because it is 4 times better than any other element to reflection solar radiation. There is also the threat of the soil being toxified around the earth because of how much aluminum is being put into the atmosphere.
3. The side effects of chemtrails are hard to manage and will most likely harm all forms of life. I believe that it is important to understand the concept of geoengineering because it all may be evidence to support the accusation towards the government.
4. Many government-employed people deny that the government is doing any sort of action like geoengineering. They seem to be very hesitant to talk about any of the factors and even throw laughter to the people who are asking the important questions.
5. One of the conferences with scientists that focus on geoengineering and its effects, showed that the scientists were not being entirely truthful. There are so many of these conferences in this film, which all show very similar answers to significant questions about the impacts of chemtrails in our air.
6. Contrails are different than chemtrails because contrails evaporate fast and chemtrails stay in the sky for a very long time. This is important evidence to create an argument for the impacts of geoengineering.
7. The man in California talked about how his skies around his 2000 acres of property are different from what they used to be a few years ago. They discussed how soil pH has risen (normal is up to 6.0, but it is now 6.8 in some areas) and chemical levels in the water have changed drastically because of the three poisonous chemicals supposedly being put into the atmosphere. Hikers are drinking this toxic water, which is an obvious red flag.
8. I believe that when there is extremely contaminated water and soil in very clean parts of the world, there needs to be more openness to different types of causes. I am not fully supporting the idea of geoengineering, but it is clearly an accurate accusation that needs to be researched on a more significant level of science to be even slightly accepted in the public.
Question: The fact that untouched water and soil (on top of a mountain far from industrialization) have been negatively affected so highly shows that there is in-fact some sort of activity happening to cause such levels, my question is how is this not evidence of geoengineering? Scientifically, where else do you think these high levels of three specific contaminants could come from?
1: It seemed that a lot of people in the video could not agree on exactly what was being dropped out of the plains. Sometimes reflective materials other time things like paper.
ReplyDelete2: It would be very cheap to do making it harder to manage.
3: This video said the scientists have yet to look into the long term health effect of pouring aluminum into the atmosphere.
4: The spraying that people are reporting seems to primarily be nato countries
5: notes in a drop in clarity when the trails are seen
6: aluminum is a known carcinogen
7: In Hawaii they said that they never see the plains and said the reason for that is it is done offshore and blown in. I thought it was important to give at least one example of them saying something is happening without evidence.
Question: How do we know how credible the people being interviewed are? Some of them it did not seem to make much sense as people who would know anything. Some were just people, some were in unrelated fields like dentists, others were just listed as scientist and no information on where they are from.
1) Based off of eye-witness accounts of grid-like/vertical clouds of particulates over parts of California, scientists tested the towns “pristine” water source for particulates connected to the trails observe. Levels of various trace elements were found to be present in the water source.
ReplyDelete2) Plant life in the community was also tested. Dangerous amounts of aluminum and barium found in soil. Further, this is reason to believe soil levels will be affected from the atmospheric geoengineering that is occurring today.
3) Aluminum oxide forms placed within your arteries shutting down life. Aluminum is an example of a trace element that is currently being used in the ionization of the atmosphere.
4) A great analogy used for the importance and delicacy of the atmosphere is: image that the, “Atmosphere as thin as a layer of paint on a basketball”. If this was stressed more within the education system maybe people would slowly start to understand the complexity of this issue.
5) Geoengenering is not only currently happening, but it has been happening. These elements have been dissipating and falling on our communities, families, animals, and the environment around us. This is an issue because some elements such as aluminum bioaccumulate.
6) Arizona Senator says that, “the concern is off the charts”, and that the increase of diagnosed cases of, “alzheimer's has skyrocketed”, further a cause of alzheimer's is the accumulation of aluminum in the brain
7) Regular aluminum levels are measured naturally at 2ppm, currently atmospheric aluminum levels are at 39000 ppm.
Belgium= first geoengineering conference
1. Aluminum oxide is the most harmful pollutant because it causes plaque in your arteries to build up. Aluminum accumulation overtime causes major neurological damage because it ends up as aluminum oxide and it sticks inside the organism.
ReplyDeleteEvery health condition can be traced back to exposure to a toxin.
2. This is an issue that affects all people because it is the air we breathe. It should matter to everyone to have clean air to breathe that does not have toxins.
3. “Governments do things because they can” They have major military organizations that are capable of testing on our atmosphere
4. There are many studies done that prove aluminums effects and toxicity
5. 39,000 parts per million of aluminum in the air when the normal amount should be 2
6. By testing for aluminum amounts it can inform how much unnatural exposure is happening. The proof is in the aluminum!
7. “Follow the dollar to get to the source of the problem”
Question: How is Geo engineering a profitable project? I am interested in learning more about the tax payers role and the funds they receive and distribute
Delete7 Takeaway from the film
ReplyDelete1. The contrails and chemtrails controversy has been in conversation for decades. Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering (SAG) is rarely in the media, but is an intense topic.
2. “Follow the money. You will come to the answer sooner or later”
3. They aren’t scientists; they are just skeptical about the answers. They need to answer the question of what the milky trails in the sky are.
4. Coverup operations are releasing aluminum and barium into the atmosphere at crazy high levels. People involved in the government deny this, but the data testing and sickness levels have shown otherwise.
5. Aluminum oxide causes major neurological damage as well as cancer. Aluminum is 39,000 ppm when it should be 2 ppm.
6. Heavy metal pollution is draining out the stars and affecting people’s health and wellbeing. Lives are in jeopardy.
7. Geoengineering is most definitely happening, but whether this practice is affecting and/or causing the climate change we are seeing globally is debatable. Some people consider this topic a ‘conspiracy fact’ rather than a ‘conspiracy theory.’
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ReplyDelete1. When aluminum gets to the oxide stage, it forms a plaque in arteries. These impacts are also a major negative burden on the environment. As it accumulates, it causes major neurological damage.
ReplyDelete2. The overarching goal should be to remove toxins from the environment. Instead, they are being put in. There are metals in the environment with no other explaination except geoengineering.
3. This is a common ground for every person. Everyone wants clean air and water. If people stopped to consider how thin the atmosphere was, they would advocate for it to not be treated like a physics lab.
4. There is concern with the "why" of the situation. Why is this being allowed? Why is hardly anyone speaking out against this? Who is paying for it?
5. We should have 2ppm aluminum in the air, but the charts shown in the movie was 39,000. This is a major health hazard. As aluminium accumulates, it has very detrimental impacts, including changing the pH of soil.
6. There is a tremendously profitable industry behind geoengineering. Everything is in place for this operation to be happening. It is just a matter of motives and spreading information.
7. People need education on geoengineering. Without this, they cannot make educated decisions about geoengineering. The government needs a systems change focused on mandatory transparency.
Question: Were the people they interviewed reliable narrators? Is there a way to concretely test the chemicals coming out of planes?
1. New Zealand deemed the existence of chemtrails to be a conspiracy theory. Claiming that the trails that are being seen are just regular contrails, belittling people’s concerns.
ReplyDelete2. Aluminum has a 4X volume metric rate of sulfur and 16X less coagulation rate. Making it the ideal option for reflecting sunlight away from earth.
3.Aluminum and barium deposits have been found in high levels in rain and snow all over the earth. Leading the public to believe that there is evidence of spraying on unknowing people.
4. Geoengineers propose spraying on a global level.
In Phoenix there are far elevated levels of barium and aluminum in the atmosphere, 39,0000 ppm. These elevated levels are clearly not natural and are killing the natural plant life.
5. In Hawaii, they are seeing the effects of chemtrail spraying. The spraying is happening far enough away that the planes aren’t seen. Visibility of the stars and the horizon are deteriorating with the spraying.
6. There are many conferences and meetings covering the fears held by the public regarding the potential harm from geoengineering.
7. The fears for human and environmental health is a real concern. There are children standing up to these threats as well as adults and some political figures.
QUESTION: if so many people believe in the harms and corruption of chemtrails and geoengineering, why isn’t it a more accepted idea?
ReplyDeleteChemtrails are trails of “chaf," which are chemical particles, injected into the atmosphere as an effort to cool it. Aluminum is the most common mineral used as chaf, because it is 4 times the volumetric rate, and 16 times less the coagulation rate compared to other metals such as barium and strontium.
Risk assessments have not been published to citizens. Researchers claim that human health impacts for aluminum chafs do not yet pose toxicological health risks to humans- yet continued to claim research (which is unpublished at this point) is in progress. Others say that atomospheric aluminum parts will lead to aluminum oxide forming in the body, forming a plaque within arteries.
Ecological risk assessments show that these chemicals will result in global atomospheric issues such as exacerbated ozone depletion, and
Drought in africa and asia.
Many theorize the alterior motives in investing in these technologies, such as the power held over others by controlling resource quality, as well as the opportunity to weaponize this technology or modification of weather to benefit human activity (ie snow on the ski slopes, raining when in drought).
Those who study this theory, either supporting or opposed- are thoroughly mocked in the science and political realm, deemed as conspiracy theorists.
Normal levels of atmospheric aluminum content are 2 ppm, current levels are now 39,000 ppm.
1. The film towards the beginning of the film showed a parliament discussing the "chemtrails conspiracy" . They use the word in such a way to completely discredit devalue and mock the ideas of geoengineering.
ReplyDelete2. Aluminum was the central idea of the movie we watched. They discussed how even though people are denying these SAGs but there is such a high concentration of aluminum in our way land, atmosphere and rain. This is so dangerous because it's a carcinogen.
3. There was a quote when someone asked if there was any fear of this being bad for human health and the man answering said no but only because they have done no testing to prove whether or not this will be bad for human health. This means that they are openly saying that they are testing without trying to see what the effects could be.
4. G Edward Griffin discussed the differences between contrail and chemtrails in order to identify which is which. He said that the biggest differences are that contrails dissipate and are 10 to 10 lengths of the airplane. Chemtrails are long, long lasting and tend to criss cross.
5. The movie showed how there are the two sides of geoengineering as I discussed in my presentation. In any decision they must determine a balance of their actions. How to benefit and help the most with limiting the potential harm as much as possible.
6. They also discussed how because this is a global conspiracy there must be international organizations and political powers that are in charge of all of this. They use the classic expression “follow the money”.
7. The important thing that I am learning about all of this is that geoengineering is a type of science that is conducting research and has potential experiments and ways in which they want to combat global warming. The big question is not really if this is going to happen or if its real its if it is already happening.
Question: The part of the country that believes in climate change but does not want to make any action because they believe in a technofix. That being said geoengineering is a type of a technofix that the country is unaware of the existence of. Why would the country be completely unaware of a potential solution if it was the best potential option without anything bad going on with it?
1. Chemtrails block the sun by spraying something into the atmosphere. The video begins with the American Association for the Advancement of Science discussing this topic.
ReplyDelete2. There is deliberate, large scale intervention in the system. Aluminum, Strontium, and Barium are being pumped into the atmosphere.
3. Experts were asked at a conference, if there are 10 megatons of aluminum dumped into the atmosphere, wouldn't that have serious health impacts? The expert replied, they don't know enough yet, but as of yet, there is no information to indicate negative impacts.
4. G. Griffin was interviewed and talked about the difference between contrails and chemtrails. He indicated that chemtrails are often in criss-cross pattern, look milky, and can cause trouble breathing.
5. The spraying is occurring mostly in NATO countries which indicates political motivation. There is also a profitable industry around it.
6. Deposits of aluminum, barium, and strontium are indicating that something is going on. They discuss deposits found in the soil pH in California as way above average. Additionally, high levels of these heavy metals are being found in forests and water bodies which is cause for concern.
7. Individuals interviewed said "The amount of metal falling on us cannot be disputed", "What is more important than the fear of sucking up heavy metals when you breathe?"
Question: How is something as controversial as a shift away from fossil fuels (which our entire economy and military is based on), discussed more than chemtrails if it has similar or more extreme implications according to the video?